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  • raging+drunk+ladraging drunk lad August 2011
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    Discuss.

    ...If there's anything to really say about them.
  • starfalconstarfalcon August 2011
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    I refuse to participate in this discussion.
    ...
    Goddammit.
  • Downside-upDownside-up August 2011
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    What is this I don't even
  • raging+drunk+ladraging drunk lad August 2011
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    Don't make me post up a link to a "what's your fursona?" quiz, people.
  • August 2011
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    What's a furrie?
  • raging+drunk+ladraging drunk lad August 2011
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    How they describe themselves: (link)
  • EugeneEugene August 2011
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    This is a sphere of the geek/nerd world that is particularly embarrassing to me when I try to act as an ambassador to Geekdom or whatever, so I've spent some time thinking about why that is.

    I think there are several reasons it bothers me, and each is a very different aspect of, er, furrydom.

    1. Some furries treat the hobby as an expression if Disney-esque anthropomorphic animal cuteness. This is okay with me, but the older a person is, the more it strikes me as immature, and possibly creepy -- like an older person at a Pokemon convention. I have no problem with you thinking it's cute, even though it's for kids, but actually seeing you AROUND KIDS is, well, creepy. Sorry. This is a rare type of furry in any case, in my experience, but also probably the most harmless, unless they are actually a pedophile, in which case they are the most harmful. So, big error range there.
    2. Other furries treat anthropomorphic animals as a more mature version than the Disney anthropomorphic animals. They change the animal so that it's no longer a child. They've taken the idea and removed the pedophillic aspect from it, great -- unfortunately, part of being an adult is sex, and attraction to the same and/or opposite sex. It's difficult for me to separate turning anthropomorphic animals into a mature hobby without adding sexuality into the mixing bowl. Once that happens in my mind, mentally, I feel nauseated, just a physical reaction to sex with animals that I don't think I can do anything about. There's just something about "sexy animals" that hits my mind the wrong way and I find it disgusting and unnatural. I wish I could say it was just me oversexualizing an otherwise innocent thing, but the reality is that in many contexts, furries *do* purposely add to the sexual appeal of a costume or a drawing, so it really is not just me. Unfortunately, this is the most common type of furry in my experience. There's no harm in these types of furries, but I find the thought process alien and nauseating and prefer not to deal with these people.
    3. Lastly, I'm not even sure if this qualifies as furry, but I cannot help but associate the two mentally. I have met people before who truly believe they are an animal. I'm not a psychiatrist so I don't know if this is a known mental thing, or what, but these people are not unique to my experience, they exist widely. And, well, frankly, I just cannot relate and think that these people deserve my pity as a mentally handicapped person. If that sounds mean... sorry. Again, not sure if this still counts as furrydom... but I can't help but wonder when someone is into anthropomorphic animals whether or not they are fucking crazy.

    And now you know far, far too much about how my mind works. :)

  • raging+drunk+ladraging drunk lad August 2011
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    Some people blame cartoons for converting kids into latent furries. I'm not sure how credible that is.

    Well, I'm sure it's true for some people, but it's not the cartoons that are blatantly trying to make people fetishize them.

    ...Most of the time, I hope.
  • August 2011
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    Are you saying to me that people dress as sexy animals? Somewhere between planking and the word jelly I am missing out on some trends. I'm getting old.

  • EugeneEugene August 2011
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    It's not limited to dress up... no, not at all. It's nearly a lifestyle choice for some people.
  • FerretFerret August 2011
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    1. Well, as the dude with the animal name you'd think I'd be a natural when it comes to the whole furry business. But the ting is I've never really understood what they're on about. I'm just gonna go ahead and comment on Eugene's 3 categories.If only looking at this one, I'd be liable to go with the good old 'every fandom has its creeps' and leave it at that. The other two are loaded to the rim with creeps and broken people though. If ignoring the pedos, there's really not much to say here. Sure it seems silly that adult people are interested in this, but we all have our quirks. Personally I'd totally go to a model train convention. 

    2. Yeah, this is where the Twilight Zone kicks in. The way I see it, all of this is escapism in various degrees. I'm gonna speculate here and say that many of these people have been sexually assaulted in some form or the other as kids. What they do is they retreat mentally to something nice that they enjoyed as kids; cute animals. As they mature and puberty hits their sexuality develops, but human sex is to them something connected with very unpleasant memories so instead they apply the sexuality to their cute animal comfort zone. There's without a doubt even more reasons and explanations for people being into dressing up as anthrpromorphic animals.
      And then there's the people who just enjoy fucking animals. Blimey. 

    3. These are the otherkin. They believe their soul or spirit was meant to be born in an animal. That's the basics of it. I actually had a conversation with someone once who believed she had been a wolf in a previous life and that she was supposed to have been a wolf again. To quote her, she said that she didn't see anything appealing about humans, 'as all humans do is reproduce and then die'. 
      I pointed out that the same thing can be applied to wolves too. Never heard from her again.

      Also the whole otherkin goes farther than the animal kingdom. I'm not kidding when I say that there's people out there who believe they were a computer game character or cartoon person in a previous life. 

     

  • EugeneEugene August 2011
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    Ferret said: Personally I'd totally go to a model train convention.

     I think there are quirky people and there are quirky people. I think it's okay living in a kids world -- I love anime, but I think a lot of anime does pander to a quirky audience. I don't love that aspect of it. I'd totally go to a train convention, too -- in fact, I'd be more likely to do that than go to an anime convention, and I've never build a model train set in my life. So, I dunno. Like I said, I think it comes down to the fact that 99.9% of this category is harmless. Upskirt shots in anime are completely inocuous to most of the audience (at least, the anime audience I'm familiar with)... it's only that tiny minority that makes this whole thing creepy.


     


    Ferret said: The way I see it, all of this is escapism in various degrees.

     I like this explanation.


    Ferret said: I actually had a conversation with someone once who believed she had been a wolf in a previous life and that she was supposed to have been a wolf again.

     I had a friend who was convinced she was a horse. She was much more "convincing" than your example, and I learned quickly that my "I know everything" attitude did not work on her. Her argument was basically, "I'm a horse -- there's nothing you can say to convince me otherwise."


    PS - quoting multiple parts of a post is really easy with the whole highlight-selection-quote plugin.

  • FerretFerret August 2011
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    Ok, so I've actually been to a model train convention. Twice. In Germany.

  • EugeneEugene August 2011
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    Ferret said: Ok, so I've actually been to a model train convention. Twice. In Germany.

     Are you into model trains or did you just walk into the wrong door next to the Neo-nazi convention?

  • Downside-upDownside-up August 2011
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    Did you find any Thomas the Tank Engine porn?

  • FerretFerret August 2011
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    Eugene said: Are you into model trains or did you just walk into the wrong door next to the Neo-nazi convention?

    Considering the kind of jobs Deutsches Bahn did for the nazis, I wouldn't be surprised to hear that some neo nazi set up his own idea of a fancy model set at the convention. 


    Also this was at least 15 years ago.


     


    Downside-up said: Did you find any Thomas the Tank Engine porn?

    That was before the days of Thomas. But I did see some really realistic costum made model trains. That was rather porn.

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